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Advances in medical technology mean people are living longer. What are some of the downsides of this? How old do you hope to live? I think we’ve gotten away from real food & how to live. We rely on doctors, medicines more than on our own minds & bodies. My thing is, Why with all the modern technology are we sicker than ever?

With that said though, I do appreciate the advancements we have made but feel we should have a balance.
 
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The medical profession and related industries are huge when it comes to profit. They will make us eat medicines and undergo tests without any actual need for it.

I do not see any actual benefit from any of these.
 
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@Abhi You do not see the benefit from any medical technology, like, in general? Of course there are valid points of criticism against the medical industry, but **no actual benefit?** I for one am glad I do not live in a world with the plague, polio, the common cold being a death threat etc.
 
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> @Varlot You do not see the benefit from any medical technology,

I do

But what good is technology in the wrong hands?

> @Varlot I for one am glad I do not live in a world with the plague, polio, the common cold being a death threat etc.

We have many equivalents, if not worse.
 
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> @Abhi But what good is technology in the wrong hands?

Then blame the hands, not the technology. I love that knives exist, it makes cooking much more efficient, but at the same time I do not like them in the hands of murderers. Instead of wishing knives were never invented, I say "Hey, let's arrest that murderer!".

Wheelchairs is a basic example of medical technology that you are writing off by claiming what you do.

> @Abhi We have many equivalents, if not worse.

Firstly, we do not have anything worse than the black plague, which killed between 75 mill and 200 mill in a time where we did not have big cities or that many people. Without medical progress, the black plague would kill that times a lot today.

Secondly, granted there are equivalents, without medical technology we would have the equivalents **plus** those we have eradicated in the past. Without the invention of antibiotics, for instance, I'm guessing Admin Brave would have been a few members shorter while some graveyard had earned a couple of more bodies.
 
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I agree with everything you said. The only thing that bothers me is when I visit a public hospital, the service is poor. When I visit a speciality hospital, I get poor. ☹️
 
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> @Abhi I agree with everything you said.

Hehe, that's nice to hear!

> @Abhi The only thing that bothers me is when I visit a public hospital, the service is poor. When I visit a speciality hospital, I get poor. ☹️

That's a huge problem in loads of countries. In my opinion a goal for any society should be to 1) have good service in the hospital and 2) have free health care for all its citizens, even if they need specialist doctors or expensive procedures.
 
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Do you have a different system where you live?

I know a lot of good doctors. But when people invest their money, they try to double in no matter how.
 
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@Abhi We have free health care. It works pretty good.
 
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That is great to know. Hope more countries do that.

We have free health care too. But a lot of people stay away from it.
 
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@Abhi Right! Everybody uses the free one here. You only go to private doctors here if you need plastic surgery or want to get a non-important checkup appointment on the day.
 
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I never trusted anything that is free, unless it is software ;)
 
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@Abhi Well, works like a charm here a least! :)
 
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It is a good thing @Varlot

If it is working and good, that is a great achievement
 
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Good discussion here :) I'm glad we have medical advancements but I feel it puts the responsibility off of the individual. They tend to eat junk, smoke, don't exercise knowing they can get a pill to help their high blood pressure & diabetes. While I'm not against doctors, they are my last resort. This is my analogy: Say you go to the Regular doc because you stub your toe on a chair. The Regular doc treats the toe. You go home, and… stub your toe again. So, you go to a Naturopath. They treat… the chair aka Moves it. The toe is just the symptom. You go home, and… don’t stub your toe as that chair is moved.
 
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Is it that we're sicker than ever, or that we finally have the technology to know more about the diseases that are ravaging us? I think advances in technology have definitely helped us move forward, and it's easy for me to say that as I sit here with an insulin pump attached to me literally keeping me alive, and a trans woman...so...yeah, medical technology has definitely helped to shape my life! I'd say there are many, many examples of medical technology being very vital in keeping people alive. There are alternative medicines, my oldest sister is very into alternative medicines, and that's great, but as someone who wouldn't be here without conventional medicine, I have no issues with it, at all. Granted, I do feel they over-prescribe in a lot of cases, and we ended up with an opioid epidemic because of it. And they treat more than they cure, because treatments mean money and cures mean the loss of repeat business. So there are positives and negatives to medicine.
 

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